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DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: I believe that's a minimum qualification that is set by the Charter. I don't believe that's the qualification that is looked at by the Police Commission when they actually go out seeking an applicant for the position. MS. JARMAN: Do you think we should raise it? DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Maybe Mr. Ben can offer an explanation, but in looking at the Charter, all of the positions have that five year minimum qualification; but I understand that all of them carry a higher qualification when they actually go out to advertise. MS. JARMAN: Do you think five years is enough? DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: I have 27 years, and I'm still doubting it. MS. JARMAN: I'm just thinking that five years to be the Police Chief doesn't - -- Again, I know nothing, really very little. DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: I hold it to our Police Commission, or even the Mayor. Any position that is overseeing whatever department that they have, when they seek the candidates, although this is the minimum qualification, you are looking for somebody of a little higher caliber. You are looking for somebody that has the education, experience and background behind them. This is just a minimum level that is set, just a baseline. MS. JARMAN: So you're fine with that. DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Yes, for now, yes. MS. JARMAN: For 10 years? There won't be another Charter Commission for 10 years. DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Even if that is a baseline for 10 years, again, the qualifications would be higher, depending on what the Commission would put out. MS. JARMAN: Do you think the Charter should reflect reality, or do you think it doesn't matter? If in reality we want a Police Chief who has had 20 years of experience, should we have that in the Charter? DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Yes, you probably could. But, what would you set as the baseline? Would you say 10 years, or 15 years? MS. JARMAN: I don't know. I would ask you for your expertise on that. I don't have strong feelings either way. It just seemed like five years is short. DEP. CHIEF FERREIRA: Like I said, I think it is a minimum baseline, and we depend on the Police Commission or the Fire Commission to look at what they actually want in the applicant, what kind of expertise they want. They will do a comparative with other W