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CHR. HAITSUKA: Is there any further discussion? Ms. Jarman. MS. JARMAN: Can I ask one legal question, since we have an attorney up there? So, if the Charter says a minimum of five years experience, then when the Police Commission advertises, do they have to say a minimum of five years, or can they say a minimum of 20 years? Do they have to at least advertise consistent with the Charter? MR. MASUDA: I would say they have to advertise consistent with the Charter, because they are guided by the Charter. Now, how they go and evaluate the different applicants is up to the criteria established by the Commission. But, we're looking only at minimum qualifications. MS. JARMAN: Okay, so they would still have to say minimum qualifications; then they could say desirable qualifications, and add the more experience, or whatever. I'm just making sure we don't have a legal problem when they're hiring people with higher qualifications. Okay, good. Thank you. CHR. HAITSUKA: Any further discussion or questions on Chapter 2? Thank you, gentlemen. Let's move on to Chapter 3, Department of Liquor Control. We have the Director, Ms. Jan Pakele here. (Note: At this time, Jan Pakele, Director, Liquor Control, came forward to address the members of the Commission.) CHR. HAITSUKA: Good afternoon, Ms. Pakele. Does your department have any comments as to any revisions to Chapter 3? MS. PAKELE: Good afternoon. I do not, but I am here to answer any questions that you may have. CHR. HAITSUKA: Can you identify yourself please. MS. PAKELE: Janice Pakele, Director, Liquor Control. MS. JARMAN: Should we call you Ms. Mayor? Ms. Possible Mayor? MS. PAKELE: No problem, I don't think Billy would like that. MS. JARMAN: Did you know that you were in line to be Mayor? MS. PAKELE: You know, I do recall that, fleetingly. CHR. HAITSUKA: You probably don't agree with the line -up though. You maybe should have been up front. 31