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this , to address it at the commission meetings , as far as the direction they ' d like the Police Chief to pursue. And, as I said, as a practical matter, when your boss tells you something , you know, you would follow it. L ' ORANGE : What ' s you ' re kind of saying is that, I mean. . .what I mean to is the broad , general parts of the Charter are sufficient maybe in the practical day-to-day and it developes rules, procedure and administrative suggestion coming through the managing director as to how they operate , rather than to spell out specifically that they shall do keep track of overtime and. . . IBARRA : That. . .that ' s true. Yes. And that ' s. . . L' ORANGE: . . .whatever. IBARRA : And that ' s where I see the general supervision and control of the day-to-day. JUVIK : Although (inaudible) may present the complaints, that might be part of some Charter. . . IBARRA : Yes. JUVIK : . . . (inaudible) . IBARRA : Yes. Because, I think even our present commissioners , when this recent incident regarding the department , and you know. And, you know, the comments made was our hands are tied ; the Charter doesn' t allow us to anything except for the purpose of inquiry. BETHEA. Yeah. Under the under the Charter, would you agree that that is the correct interpretation? IBARRA : I think so. BETHEA : I would think so too. Just reading in that book. IBARRA: Yes. I think there ' s Corp. Counsel (inaudible) that too. BETHEA : Pardon me? IBARRA : I think the Corp. Counsel ' s advise is similar too. And that ' s why the Police Commission at that time did not act . DUNCAN : Ron, would you say. . . GREENWELL: We don' t have the authority (inaudible) . DUNCAN : . . .would you say that the this probably applies to all these departments that are authorized by Charter, I mean, these commissions? 35