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IBARRA : But the. . . really, generally speaking , the mayor has a lot of authority , and should have , over his. . .over the departments , just by the mere fact that they ' re all appointed except the ones that are appointed by the commission. They can all be terminated, except the Corp. Counsel , without the concurrence of the Council. So once they ' re appointed and confirmed, such as the Finance Director, Planning, R&D, P&R , Public Works and Fire, they can be terminated without cause , without concurrence of the Council. So that in itself is a. . . GREENWELL: Going back to what I said earlier, the problem was the purchasing agent purchased without the authority of the Board of Supervisors at the suggestion of a supervisor. And this is what they tried to get away from by going to the strong mayor and having that one person in authority. Everything then had to be approved of by the Council. JUVIK : Excuse me, Ron. The commissioners themselves in these , you know Civil Service , Police and so on, do not serve at the pleasure of the mayor, do they? IBARRA: No, they serve for a fixed term. JUVIK : So, there , a new mayor does not automatically mean new commissioners in those. . . IBARRA : No. JUVIK : . . .in those. . . BETHEA : He ' s appointed. . . the mayor appoints and the Council confirms. JUVIK : Right, but they ' re not all going out when the new mayor comes in? IBARRA : No. BETHEA: No. IBARRA : The state commission, and I know certain governors , have asked resignations from their commissioners , even though they don ' t automatically. . .are co-terminous with the. . .now that ' s really political. But under the County Charter, these people are not co-terminous with the term of the office of the mayor. OMONAKA: Mr. Ibarra? IBARRA : Yes. OMONAKA : Coming back to the Police Commission. (Inaudible) . . .problems that you observed. We find that the commissioners are appointed by. . . in the district in which there ' s 37