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IBARRA : Yes , I thought of that when I was managing <br /> director, because I had the responsibility of direct supervision; <br /> and the next step I would have done was, certainly , appear before <br /> the commission and tell them that I have problems with a <br /> department head that they supervise . For example, I' ve a. . .on a <br /> day-to-day basis as managing director, I rated all the department <br /> heads. I evaluated them. And, certainly , if I felt that they <br /> didn ' t comply with the mayor ' s general guidelines and the <br /> administrative supervision and control, then I think our only <br /> remedy is to come before the department and say , look , we ' ve asked <br /> the chief or the director. . .Civil Service , Liquor , or even Water, <br /> to do this administrative procedures, and they refused; please <br /> take appropriate action. And. . . This. . . We also looked into the <br /> matter as far as even suspending , you know, the department heads. <br /> JUVIK : The basic rationale for having this buffer between <br /> the. . .these particular units and the mayor is to. . .was to remove <br /> these. . . <br /> IBARRA : . . .political. . . <br /> JUVIK : . . .from political. . . <br /> IBARRA : . . .yes. . . <br /> JUVIK : . . .interference. Was it not? <br /> IBARRA : Yes. Yes, that ' s true. <br /> BETHEA : Within the Police Commission , they went one step <br /> further in--as I. . .as I understand it, and I ' ll ask Ron this <br /> question. In the Police Commission, they went one step further <br /> and said that the commission, unlike the Water Commission, shall <br /> not interfere in any way with the administration of the <br /> department, which was left to the mayor, I mean, which was left to <br /> the Chief of Police , except for the language that said the Police <br /> Department shall come under the general supervision. . . <br /> IBARRA : . . .general supervision. . . <br /> BETHEA : . . .and control of the mayor. So I think the idea <br /> is they didn' t want the commission to be able to get in to <br /> sensitive areas of the department , that the department might be <br /> working on. <br /> IBARRA : Yeah. <br /> BETHEA : I presume that that ' s the reason for the <br /> difference, I don' t know. <br /> IBARRA : We ' ve had. . .we ' ve had cases where a citizen would <br /> complain about green harvest , for example , to the commission, and <br /> saythat we should not have thepolicego out on operation green <br /> P <br /> 32 <br />