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CHOCK: We don' t have a lobbying department or we don' t <br /> have any paid lobbists , but I tell you, Bill and George are <br /> doing a wonderful job going down and getting monies back for <br /> our department. <br /> BETHEA: Well , you' re getting monies of course, you call <br /> it for your department , but you' re getting monies for all of us <br /> that makes all of these things available. And this is not a <br /> serious , demanding question, but the County is down there right <br /> now desperately needing some infrastructure monies from the <br /> state, I mean we need them, in particular in West Hawaii in my <br /> opinion. And we need all of that. And so we try to use the <br /> clout that our legislators have, and there' s all kinds of <br /> political tradeoffs and this and that , so what do you do? Do <br /> you go down and talk to the Board of Land and Natural Resources <br /> and try to get it. . . <br /> SEWAKE: Yeah (inaudible) . <br /> BETHEA: . . . through the Governor ' s budget? <br /> SEWAKE: Well , I think if you can get it through the <br /> Governor ' s budget , that ' s the best way, you know. Because if <br /> you get it through the Legislature, when you want to have the <br /> money released, the Governor has to believe in it too. So you <br /> get whatever you can from the Governor ' s budget and the other <br /> projects , it has to make sense to both sides. <br /> BETHEA: True. Pam. <br /> CUSHNIE: Well , from the Governor ' s changing theory of <br /> financing, he seems to be doing away with the grants-in-aide <br /> and giving instead the Counties the alcohol , liquor. . .what <br /> other tax? <br /> COMMISSION: Cigarette tax. <br /> CUSHNIE: Sin taxes . Are you going to have difficulty <br /> separating your portion, your fair share, from this lump sum <br /> you might be receiving? <br /> SEWAKE: We could. We could be (inaudible) . Because <br /> traditionally, you know, the County needs its funds so I think <br /> we' re kind of low on their priority list. <br /> CUSHNIE: Uh-huh. <br /> SEWAKE: It ' s the same with, like. . .you know, before we <br /> used to have a lot of money when the federal had the housing <br /> and urban development grants . And we used to go chase after <br /> that ourselves. But they did away with that and now they have <br /> this revenue sharing where they give the County the money. I <br /> 103 <br />