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County operated it . Okay. Now, less and less is coming from the state. That ' s why he has a facilities charge, to handle some of the growth for the smaller subdivisions , where the developers would come in and pay the whole bill. SEWAKE: Yeah, if I may, I think I 'm kind of covering it in what I have written. And maybe I should go through this whole thing and . . . BETHEA: Right . Well , before you do that , Dr. Juvik. JUVIK: I just want to follow up on the articulation of your department ' s role in the general plan process on the island. How. . . I 'm not quite clear, for example, you mentioned that the plumbing for the main capital projects have in the past, at least , come from the state Legislature. SEWAKE: Uh-huh. JUVIK: Now, obviously, that ' s a political process. And I could imagine situations where, perhaps the Legislature might find water development that may not be the highest priority, let ' s say at the condo, "for other reasons. " SEWAKE: Yes. JUVIK: And. . .how do you incorporate. . . I mean, you have to make decisions on the basis of the cost , and you' re autonomous but you' re not going to provide free water to everybody because some politicians want it. You have to operate on a budget system, you know, revenues you generate yourself. How do you deal with the County and state planning operations where they' re state proposals for development in the area and so forth when you may be forced to incorporate water systems into your own operation that maybe you wouldn' t if you had your own choice, because of the cost effectiveness of those plans? Do Y get et what I 'm talking about? SEWAKE: Well , we take whatever free money we can, I guess, is my answer. But , you know, this island is very large, right? And there are many areas without water systems. No way can revenues from our department finance the expansion of those systems. So if any federal , state or even County has. . .agency has programs for expansion of this system, we ' ll accept their criteria, for how they want to spend their money. JUVIK: For example? SEWAKE: For example, well , I mean, Pahoa was without a water system many years ago. That was with state money. All of. . .practically all of Kona is with state money. But a lot of were with substandard the plantation communitiessystems operated with state help. And yet . . .Legislature, they have 9 5 ..