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GREENWELL: I (inaudible) . CUSHNIE: Mr . Chairman? BETHEA: Yes. CUSHNIE: Along the same lines , Section 7-1 . 2 , I noticed in your proposed wording, you 've left off the representation of geographical areas. Is there a reason for that? LUKE: Yes and. . .shall I explain it? Mr. Chairman, I 'd like to make a statement now so that I don' t lose it . And this is regards to staggered terms. We have discussed this with department. . . I have discussed this with the mayor ' s office with the managing director and we have her blessing and the mayor ' s blessing to propose this change of the Charter to stagger the terms. I also discussed this with our Civil Service Commission which met on Monday. And they quoted that I convey their sentiments to you all that they are in agreement with establishing these staggered terms. Okay, with regards to your question, that in item No. 3 , that our proposal (inaudible) district representation for commissioners , H.R.S. , Hawaii Revised Statutes , does not prescribe district representation for commissioners , and the reduction of commissioners from seven to five has rendered the original disre. . . that they should obsolete. So, with five commissioners we cannot appoint by districts as prescribed here, which is set up for seven commissioners. And this is our recommendation. BETHEA: Are there any other five-member commissions that have any geographical area representation? Does anybody know? What is the Police Commission? Seven or five? I can' t recall . OMANAKA: Nine (inaudible) . BETHEA: Nine? Police Commission? OMANAKA: Seven. L'ORANGE: Seven. BETHEA: Seven. L'ORANGE: It spells it out. BETHEA: Right. CUSHNIE: I think that needs looking into if we' re going to have a commission representative of the County. 358