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• 5/23/79 Meeting <br /> they extended lines and you know we had lots of problems; in fact, the <br /> department didn't have money. In fact, when I was in public works, the <br /> department use to borrow a simple drafting tool from us; that'.s how poor <br /> we were but they had a lot of heartand a lot of hard work and these are <br /> the people you know after I came deputy I didn't eventhink life was that • <br /> miserable you know so many problems all over the place. And in 1968 when the <br /> Manager resigned, I didn't want the job; I refused the job but they asked <br /> me to take the Manager's job, so I took the job; and at that time, we had <br /> drought in Hamakua, drought in Kohala, Puna and we had pump problems in Puna, <br /> Pahoa and Ka'u--all over .the place; boy, I wanted to quit; I didn 't want the <br /> job you know and I needed a deputy and I think the only guy that really, the <br /> most practical guy I can get, the most qualified guy who knows the problems <br /> and the work of the department was Ed. That's why I picked Ed. <br /> TANAKA: Okay. Now at that time in 1968, this Charter was in. When you got. to be <br /> the deputy this was already in force so you knew,you don't have a registered <br /> license, right? <br /> DEPUTY I have a surveyor' s license. • <br /> MANAGER: <br /> TANAKA: But not an engineer's license. <br /> MANAGER: He has a surveyor's license. <br /> TANAKA: So at that time you took the. position --- <br /> MANAGER: He didn't want to, but I begged him to take it. <br /> TANAKA: Right, you knew thatyou could never be under the Charter, the manager. <br /> 9 9 <br /> DEPUTY Right. <br /> MANAGER: <br /> TANAKA: Right and he' knew if anything happened to you, that no way could he be the <br /> manager. <br /> DEPUTY Right, under the existing Charter; it's there, can't do anything about it. <br /> MANAGER: <br /> TANAKA: Because it gets to be a concern again you know to us as commissioners and <br /> you know we don' t wish you and Akira, but if anything happens. to him, you <br /> know our problem is noway we can have the number two man who supposed to <br /> know about the Department and comes with this recommendation., right, no way <br /> he can be the Manager. <br /> • <br /> -13- <br />