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Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Mr. Yoshimoto: <br />I'm just thinking about that poor lady who came in all by herself to <br />face us. Totally new to the process. You know I felt for her and <br />maybe I don't know what the union person would do except maybe <br />come and observe and that might be important to the petitioner...to <br />have somebody sitting in the audience they knew and could be <br />called upon to verify information if necessary. I don't know. <br />That's just my feeling I think we ought to mention unions...if they <br />don't want to get involved...that's not our problem. <br />And I agree with you. But I don't know that that's something that <br />they wouldn't have the right automatically. We don't check whose <br />specifically sitting in the audience and how they are related to...in <br />whatever way to the person who comes and files a petition. So I <br />think and even people who come up with the petitioner right that <br />they can bring up more than one person as they come up. Just as a <br />support team whatever. I don't think we would ever deny them <br />bringing whoever they needed to bring or whoever they would like <br />to bring as they present their petition to the board. <br />At least at the informal hearing stage for sure right? I mean that's <br />very informal. But if it were an actual contested hearing...you <br />know I think that maybe they would be entitled...you know I don't <br />know the answer to that. <br />But we're only talking about the informal hearing right now. <br />Yeah. <br />It's a suggestion to try to make it easier for a petitioner...more <br />comfortable...and even just having it our rules might indicate the <br />fact that we're all good people with goodwill and so on and we're <br />not gonna cut anybody off. But in other types of hearings very <br />often they do check who's in the audience and send them out if <br />they have anything to do with the case because they're not allowed <br />to testify...they're not allowed to hear other testimony. You know <br />that may be a factor in whether someone comes forth with a <br />complaint. <br />We could ask the union too. We could send them a letter and <br />say...you have an opinion on this? Or we could ask corp. counsel <br />to do an analysis on the legal aspects of when you're entitled to <br />representation. <br />Listening to the discussion I think it's a good idea to provide as <br />many options as possible so I think I agree with Nan that if that's <br />included there then that just basically provides further information <br />11 <br />