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Mr. Goodenow: <br />Mr. Robinson: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Kahakalau: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />Ms. Sumner -Mack: <br />Mr. Goodenow: <br />and maybe some level of...what's the word?...not comfort but they <br />know that this is an option they have available to them. So to me I <br />think it's a great idea. <br />And if the union wants to say no...well that's their business. <br />Alright I would support that. <br />You know if I could. Going back to this poor lady and I kind of <br />feel strange that we make her case to the call celebrer here but <br />there was a lot of issues in that...that I saw. And one was the fact <br />that she was not provided information ahead of time. It was like <br />she got it here at the...when we're sitting here doing our informal <br />hearing. And you know I don't know maybe she didn't know she <br />could request or maybe...I think she had requested but had not <br />been given until we get in here...and it really that's a concern and I <br />think our rules do not provide any kind of rules or evidence or <br />anything like that...do they? <br />Oh well for the informal hearing right the rules of evidence don't <br />apply...for the contested case hearing right there are those issues <br />but...maybe if we put in a section...maybe not in this...the <br />complaint section maybe in general section at the beginning. <br />Something about what the board shall provide to them. I mean that <br />gets dangerous cause then we're obligated but you know so be it. <br />That might be best. And it maybe the way the rule could read is <br />that the board shall approve a standard letter to all persons filing a <br />complaint which shall detail the... And then of course we gotta do <br />the latter but then that could you know you don't want to put corp. <br />counsel on the hook. And one thing I thought of adding there's a <br />provision in another... something else where they put in quite <br />clearly that for the contested case hearing...at any time we do not <br />give legal advice right? <br />Yeah. <br />And so we don't want...we gotta be very careful right about that <br />but I think if we draft it and approve it and its automatic that this is <br />what gets sent. You know we could do that put that in. I would be <br />open to that. <br />Why not just have our rules as they are? I don't think we need to <br />make up a new letter...we state it clearly in our rules of procedure <br />then...and we give it to them and they have it. <br />Right but I mean...I mean there are certain...it could be in the rule. <br />But what are we really wanting corp. counsel to provide to <br />12 <br />