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IKEDA: No, no, I understand what you're doing, but, you know, what you're saying isI wish <br />you would go down to Mohouli Extension and all day long, you'll see people walking or <br />jogging, and it's a very busy street for pedestrians. The only problem is the street is dirty <br />because people keep littering, and there's two gentlemen that pick up the rubbish every day, but <br />it's very well used as a walking area. Eighty feet is very wide. In fact, what concerned me the <br />most was that people speed because the road is too wide. <br />HALL: Sorry, just a point of order. This isn't time for discussion. If you guys have questions, <br />then we can go—let's move with the questions and then you guys can discuss, when there's a <br />motion, you can discuss your concerns then. <br />IKEDA: Okay, so I'd like to hear the other conditions. I'm satisfied now. <br />JACKSON: Okay, so <br />CLARKSON: Excuse me, its noon. There are, what, fifteen amendments to go over, there are <br />approximately, I'm just guessing. I didn't actually count. I'd like to take a break for lunch and <br />then come back and start at the beginning and work our way through the amendments all the way <br />to the end. I know that people have come a long way and have waited a long time, but I can see <br />this discussion of each of these amendments at least lasting an hour or two or three, and I don't <br />think we're going to, we have time to get through them all now. So, I'd like to take a lunch <br />break until 1 p.m. at which time we will reconvene and start with the Applicant's presentation <br />and discussion of these amendments. <br />Chairman Clarkson called a lunch recess at 12:05 p.m., and the meeting was reconvened at <br />1: 02 p.m. <br />CLARKSON: Okay, the meeting is back in session. Well, we'll wait for one of the <br />Commissioners, but we have sufficient staff to answer any questions. Okay, now that all the <br />Commissionerslisten, I have a question. I don't know the difference between a driveway and <br />a road lot. Could somebody explain? <br />AGUINALDO: A road lot is I think like a flag lot—maybe my definition of a road lot is like a <br />flag lot. <br />CLARKSON: Is the pole of a flag lot? Okay, then I'll ask the Director to explain <br />YEE: Oh, trust me, I'm no expert on this one, but my guess and we'll confirm it when the real <br />staff show up, would be a driveway is like, is kind of a dead end into one like house, like that's a <br />driveway versus a road lot is an approved road? <br />CLARKSON: That goes entirely through a lot fronting the arterial. Okay. <br />YEE: So, that's, that's what they are trying to limit, is driveways, so you're having a bunch of <br />little entry ways onto a main arterial. So, that's why you don't see a lot on a major road, a bunch <br />EXHIBIT C <br />11 <br />