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SPRINGER: Greg? Thank you. You referred us to one of the conditions that addressed off-site improvements. I'm wondering if -, just to make sure that I'm on the right page. if that's Condition I. MOOERS: That is correct, I and J. SPRINGER: Thank you. Commissioners, do you have any questions or comments to the Applicant at this time? Commissioner Graham. GRAHAM: Greg, one thing that jumps to my attention is I believe the existing subdivision, like Kona Heights or like RS -15s, and Jeff showed us the new ones that went in just below, the RS -20s, so it feels like you're really representing a high density RS -10 that doesn't really conform with the neighboring areas, and it feels to me as a Planning Commission representative, like the neighbors are sort of a constituency who are already there, so I'm concerned about the higher density and their concerns. MOOERS: Well, to be honest, the density is there to try to increase the number of facilities charges and water that will help pay for the water system. The higher density, and I think you'll see this throughout this area, is that the increased number of lots is what will pay the, for the roadways. The impact related fees, as you recall, the impact related fees which are now $9,000 a unit would obviously be substantially higher in this case than if it were half the density. GRAHAM: Okay. Thank you. DARROW: Could I make a -, interject for a moment? SPRINGER: Sure. DARROW: These areas here are zoned RS -15. The Kona Heights Subdivision is actually zoned Ag -5. In looking at the sizes of these lots, they range from 7,500 square feet on up to over 10,000, so they all -, these are also non -conforming smaller type of residential lots that are located directly adjacent to this subject request. SPRINGER: Thank you, Jeff. Commissioners, any questions or comments? Seeing none, Greg, at this time, I'd like to ask you to step back and I'd like to invite the first six of 12 testifiers forward. In order of signing up, Andrea Tischler, Joel Gimpel, Laurel Gregory, David Kish, Lawrence Goff, and Alex Thropp. We'll begin at the right side of the table, and each of you in your tum, will you please state your name, your resident address, and proceed, speaking directly into the microphone, please. TISCHLER: Yes, good morning and aloha. SPRINGER: Good morning. TISCHLER: My name is Andrea Tischler, and I live up on Lopeka Place, 75-5784 Lopeka Place. I'm a newcomer to Hawaii, but I've grown to love this Island very much