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KUBOTA: Yeah. Well, no, I was just reminded that at the last meeting that the past practice is not necessarily the best practice, so I thought well, we could find a creative way to attack it, go for it. SPRINGER: I share Mrs. Kubota's concern, and even changing the zoning of large tracts of land would not necessarily address the issues of infrastructure development, would it. Mr. Director? YUEN: No, it wouldn't, but you -, it enables you to say -, I mean the ideal wav to do it is to have -, when you're having -. The problem is that you have scattered pieces of property that in themselves are not going to support major improvements, so we need a more -. as far as infrastructure planning and implementation, we need more effective ways of bringing in these various properties to fund the improvements that cannot be justified by the individual projects one by one. SPRINGER: Thank you. Any other Commissioners, questions or comments? DARROW: Ms. Chairman? SPRINGER: Yes, Jeff Darrow. DARROW: If I could just follow up on Commissioner Graham's question, it appears that you're looking at approximately 400 to 500 lots located in this area. That's not including j The Pines, which has quite a number of units, as well as Aloha Kona, and so you're looking at quite a number of impact -, lots that are impacting this particular intersection, as well as the areas that are obviously going to be coming in for rezone and subdivision in the future. GRAHAM: Thank you. DARROW: If I also can bring up one point, and I'll defer the rest of that to the Applicant's representative, they did bring up the fact that there's a possibility of putting in another mauka-makai access road to Queen Ka'ahumanu Highway in the future, and I'm not completely, have all the details on that, but I know it's to the south of these particular subdivisions. And so that may be a possibility that may be able to alleviate some of these problems that they're going to face in the future. But, again, the Applicant's representative can go into more detail as to where and when that may occur. SPRINGER: Thank you, Jeff. Commissioners, any more questions or comments to the Staff? If none, will the Applicant or the Applicant's representative and all of those who signed up to testify or wishing to testify on this agenda item, please stand and raise your right hands. I have 11 folks that have signed up so far. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai' i County Planning Commission? MOOERS: I do. TESTIFIERS: I do.